[HEA] _____________________ ___ _ |___ ______________| | | | | | | _ | | | | | || | | | | | | || | | | | | | || | | | ____ _ _ _ _ ______ | | | || | | | / __ \ | | / \_/ \ | ___ \ | | | || |__ ____ | | / / \ | | /\ /\ \ | | \ \ | | | || _ \ | _ \ | | \ \__/ | | | |_|| | | |__/ / | | | || | | || |_|| | | \___/|_| |_| |_| | ____/ |_| | || | | || |__ | |____________________ | | _ |__||_| |_|\____/ |________________________| | | |_| | | Lighting Your Apple II Path On Delphi | | |_| >>> WELCOME TO THE LAMP! <<< ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SIZZLING SHAREWARE: MUG! 1.01 WEB SLINGING 101: Delphi Forums and the Apple II AND THE BEST OF THE A2 AND A2PRO MESSAGE BOARDS :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: The Lamp! An Onipa'a Software Production Vol. 1, No. 1 :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Publisher & Editor.......................Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. Internet Email........................................thelamp@delphi.com :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: TABLE OF CONTENTS ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ January 1, 1998 OPENING PITCH Welcome Back My Friends ][ The Show That Never Ends ------------ [OPN] A FUNNY THING HAPPENED [FOR] The Heat Is On ------------------------------------------------- [HET] Miscellanea [MSC] Rumor Mill ----------------------------------------------------- [RMR] Public Postings [PUB] Best Of The Best ----------------------------------------------- [BOB] SIZZLING SHAREWARE MSDOS Utilities Graphic !nterface v1.01 by Peter Watson -------- [SIZ] WEB SLINGING 101 Delphi Forums and the Apple II -------------------------------- [WEB] EXTRA INNINGS About The Lamp! ------------------------------------------------ [INN] [*] [*] [*] READING THE LAMP! The index system used by The Lamp! is designed to make """"""""""""""""" your reading easier. To use this system, load this issue into any word processor or text issue. In the index you will find something like: EXTRA INNINGS About The Lamp! ------------------------------------------------ [INN] To read this article, simply use your search or find command to locate [INN]. There is a similar tag at the end of each article: [EOA]. :: DISCUSSED ON DELPHI :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: : : : I have a firm grip on reality. Now I can strangle it. : : : :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: GOLDFISCHE ::: [EOA] [OPN]------------------------------ OPENING PITCH | ----------------------------------- From The Editor """"""""""""""" by Ryan M. Suenaga, B.A., M.S.W., L.S.W. [thelamp@delphi.com] WELCOME BACK MY FRIENDS TO THE SHOW THAT NEVER ENDS ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ A new name, new online service, and new format may mean that this all looks like a new electronic publication for the Apple II series of computers. Looks can be deceiving, can't they? My name is Ryan Suenaga. I was the last editor of the greatest online publication for the Apple II of all time, _GenieLamp A2_. I took the helm from Doug Cuff, who edited three Apple II publications: _GenieLamp A2_, _II Alive_, and, of course, the dear, departed _A2-Central_. My roots as a writer lie back in _GS+ Magazine_; my roots with the Apple II trace back to the Apple ][+ in 1982; my roots in electronic communications to the local BBS's of the mid 1980's, and, of course, the GEnie (now Genie) online service, the virtual center of the Apple II universe for many, many years. In 1996, the wheels began to come off; GEnie became Genie, and new ownership made the small esoteric online service even smaller by hiking its prices to make it the most expensive service of its kind in the world. Even the most faithful Apple II user wondered if the nearly $20--or more--charge for 9 hours of non-prime time use each month was worth it. Many decided it wasn't, and began to leave. Many held on, hoping that ownership would see the light and grant relief to the longtime faithful, and with the exception of the aptly named and short-lived Genie Lite plan, that relief never came. Survivors that they are, the Apple II faithful looked elsewhere for a new place to call home. In late 1996, that home was found: Delphi. First thought of primarily as an alternative to Genie, it became clear when a move to price Genie more competitively never came that Delphi would not need to be a second home for virtual support for the Apple II. It would need to be _the_ home. Economically priced, with equal access to users via the standard text interface or the new fangled World Wide Web, Delphi has opened its doors to the Apple II faithful. It has surpassed Genie in both quantity and quality of message content, and it is now clear: the future of Apple II online support is on Delphi. _GenieLamp A2_, good ship that she is, had become drydocked; while it was entirely capable of playing its part in the Apple II community for years to come, the material that had been its backbone--postings by the Apple II users on the Genie A2 Bulletin Board--had thinned considerably. A new port was needed to get her floating again. It has been found. Apple ][ Forever. And forever on Delphi. [*] [*] [*] For those of you unfamiliar with the history of _GenieLamp A2_, you can check out the entire library of back issues--five years worth--on the World Wide Web, at: http://people.delphi.com/rsuenaga That's The Official Unofficial Home Page of _GenieLamp A2_ on the World Wide Web, hosted by, uh, me, its last editor. What you're reading, The Publication Formerly Known As _GenieLamp A2_, will have its own home on the World Wide Web as well. Unfortunately, it's not ready yet, but it at least has a home. It's at: http://www.sheppyware.ml.org/~rsuenaga If I'm lucky, it'll be updated by the time you read this. [*] [*] [*] Oh, and about that name. . . Sometimes, you make things harder than they need to be. When I decided the time had come to move from Genie to Delphi, I decided we needed a new name for the publication; after all, "GenieLamp A2" just didn't make as much sense for an online service on Delphi as it did on Genie. I thought long and hard about what to call the "new" newsletter. _The Delphi Oracle_ seemed a natural, until I discovered that the name was already taken. Given that Apple II users tend to be some of the brightest people you'll meet, I decided to take the question to them. The _II Scribe_ Forum on Delphi sponsored a conference, asking for name suggestions and taking a poll. Together with the help of some Apple II celebrities: Tim Kellers, operator of the _II Scribe_ Forum; Cindy Adams, KansasFest organizer; and Max Jones, editor and publisher of _Juiced.GS_, we picked a name we thought was most appropriate. Henceforth, _The Publication Formerly Known As GenieLamp A2_, is now known simply as _The Lamp!_, as suggested by that same Tim Kellers who runs the _II Scribe_ Forum on Delphi. Now, isn't that simple for everyone? [*] [*] [*] A word (well, a few) on copyrights: As the Apple II has moved from state-of-the-art to orphan to classic, and support has moved from user groups to paper publications to the online world, incidents of copyright violation have spread wildly. While this publication is not in the same category as an Apple II program, it is also subject to copyright. In the credits of this publication, just as with _GenieLamp A2_, you will find the guidelines for distributing and reprinting material in the publication. However, if you read carefully, you will also find that the restrictions are more stringent than with _GenieLamp A2_. Basically, the restrictions are simple: _The Lamp!_ is to remain exclusive to the _IIScribe_ Forum on Delphi for the first thirty days after publication. After that, I will post it on the World Wide Web at its home page, at the URL listed above, and possibly elsewhere (the Genie A2 libraries, for instance, are a possibility). I have thought long and hard about this. I realize that Apple II user groups and newsletters are hurting for material, and some of the articles published in _GenieLamp A2_ made its way around the globe to users everywhere. But the fact remains that copyright is a big issue, one I discuss with others in the Apple II world daily, and protecting it is important. If anyone from a legitimate Apple II user group or business has interest in being granted a no cost license to reprint parts or all of this newsletter regularly or distribute this publication more freely, they may certainly contact me via email. I'm not out to stop the world from seeing _The Lamp!_ and the light; I'm out to make sure I don't get taken advantage of in the process. [*] [*] [*] Oh, and in case you missed my not saying it for the last month or two: KansasFest 1998 is alive and well and being planned for July 22-26, 1998 at Avila College in Kansas City, Missouri. I hope to see you all there again. Ryan thelamp@delphi.com ASCII ART BEGINS _________ _ _ _ |__ __| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |___ ____ | | _____ __ ___ _ _ _____ | | | | | ___ \ / __ \ | | /____ \ | v v | | v ___ \ | | | | | | | | | /__\ \ | | ____| | | /\ /\ | | / \ \ | | | | | | | | | _____| | | / ___ | | || || | | | | | |_| | | | | | | | |_____ | |____ | |__| | | || || | | \___/ / _ |_| |_| |_| \______| |______| \____^_| |_||_||_| | |\____/ |_| | | | | |_| ASCII ART ENDS [EOA] [OPN]------------------------------ A FUNNY THING HAPPENED. . . . | ----------------------------------- Checking out A2 and A2Pro on Delphi """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" by Ryan M. Suenaga, B.A., M.S.W., L.S.W. [thelamp@delphi.com] * The Heat Is On * Miscellanea * Rumor Mill * Public Postings * Best Of The Best THE HEAT IS ON """""""""""""" [*] Off-Line Readers ....... Son Of A Crock [*] All about Marinetti ....... P-P-Preparing For A New Connection [*] Productivity Software ....... Finally--SuperConvert 4 [*] Telecommunications ....... Apple II Webheads Unite! MISCELLANEA """"""""""" WHICH SUPERDRIVE IS WHICH? Next week I start on my Apple IIgs Tower, """""""""""""""""""""""""" except... I've gone through all of my old Genie / CoPilot Archives and I still cannot find the file on the High Density disk drives (1,440k)! I need to know which one(s), pulled from Macintoshes, will work with the Apple High Density Disk Controller card. Also, are there any 800k Mac pulls I should stay away from? ,___(?___ Mike Brouillette, aka "The Un-Dead Apple" / _ _\ \ )|(@)m(_, Delivered via Spectrum v2.1 & Crock'O Gold v1.4 `~7oooood' (MBROUI11ETTE, 7411, GO COM A2 FOR) >>>>> Perhaps this tid-bit will help; """"" The only 1.44 floppies I've found in a Mac have three micro-switches across the front, and have the code numbers on the side in blue ink. If they are Sony they usually have a 2 meg sticker on the underside on the platter. Paul (PAULFXL, 7511, GO COM A2 FOR) >>>>> I am sure those are the units that are also used in the external """"" FDHD drives. These are the ones that work with the Apple card that supports 1.44 drives... Ewen Wannop - Speccie Message delivered by Crock O' Gold and Marinetti TCP/IP! http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ewannop/ (EWANNOP, 7519, GO COM A2 FOR) SHEPPY SOUPS UP SUPPORT I have created an Internet mailing list for """"""""""""""""""""""" announcements and discussion of my software. I did this for three reasons: (a) To provide even faster responses to questions and more rapid news and information about my work. (b) It was fun to set up. (c) Because it gives me a place to post the occasional off-beat story. To subscribe to the SheppyWare-Talk mailing list, email majordomo@sheppyware.ml.org with the phrase "SUBSCRIBE Sheppyware-Talk" in the BODY of the message. You'll receive confirmation within 10-20 minutes. There will be some amusing content posted from time-to-time, starting later tonight or tomorrow, so get yours today! Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd Macintosh & PowerPC Programmers Forum (SHEPPY, 7431, GO COM A2 FOR) <<<<< Well, KeyNotifier 1.4 is now available for download from my Web """"" site at http://www.sheppyware.ml.org/downloads.html. This new version fixes a few bugs and improves performance. I'll try to get it uploaded here soon. Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd Macintosh & PowerPC Programmers Forum (SHEPPY, 8630, GO COM A2 FOR) GEOFF SELLS SIS SHELLS ON THE C SHORE? SIS will not work reliably if you """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" telnet into a UNIX shell. You can rlogin in a UNIX shell and everything will work ok. The hardware handshaking option in Spectrum must be selected and you have to have a properly wired hardware handshaking modem cable. See the Spectrum manual for more details about hardware handshaking. Geoff (SISGEOFF, 7443, GO COM A2 FOR) >>>>> Gosh, this is the first time I'd heard this. Maybe I should """"" read the manual again. Doug C. (D_CUFF, 7467, GO COM A2 FOR) >>>>> Hmmmmmm. This got me thinking: Geoff, do you mean "telnet into a """"" UNIX shell via Marinetti" or "telnet into a UNIX shell from Delphi or Genie or another UNIX shell"? Or both? :) Ryan Think KFest '98! Delivered by OLRight! scripts for ANSITerm (RSUENAGA, 7475, GO COM A2 FOR) <<<<< You brought up an interesting issue which I have not tried or even """"" thought about. I'm not sure how the Spectrum telnet is setup, but it might be possible to telnet to your UNIX account with TopCat and run SIS that way. I can't think of any reason why that won't work and I'm sure Ewen will correct me if there is something glaringly obvious why it won't work. What I was referring to was the latter situation--the code does not support such a situation and will break. Hopefully it will just cause long pauses of inactivity and report an error, but the worst case is the system will hang. I tried to make SIS handle as many error conditions as gracefully as possible. Geoff (SISGEOFF, 7498, GO COM A2 FOR) >>>>> As far as Spectrum and its scripts are concerned, a TCP/IP Telnet """"" session is just like any other session. Some things like 'Hangup' obviously will be ignored, but otherwise Spectrum sees the data like it normally does. The connection of course is reliable, so there are no errors or missing characters... This means that a script does not need to use Timeouts, except in special circumstances. You only really need Timeouts if you don't want to hang around all day waiting for a slow server... So using TopCat to Telnet into a site that then behaves as if it was a standard Unix shell, should work just fine with SIS I would guess. But just to make sure that we cause no confusion here, using TopCat and SIS in this way, is not the same as using SIS through a normal SLIP Internet connection. That will not work, as the commands within SIS are incorrect for such a connection. Let us know how you get on... Do it manually at first, that is connect manually with the TopCat menu option then run SIS. If that works, we can perhaps set up a SISConnect script for TopCat and a Unix shell. Ewen Wannop - Speccie Message delivered by Crock O' Gold and Marinetti TCP/IP! http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ewannop/ (EWANNOP, 7515, GO COM A2 FOR) PATCHING UP SIS I just released a patch for SIS. It takes advantage of """"""""""""""" the bug fixes in Brutal Deluxe's patch of Tool034. The patch is available on the ground and caltech FTP sites. It should be in the Delphi database in a few days. If you don't have SIS, take advantage of the Seven Hills Christmas sale! Geoff (SISGEOFF, 7853, GO COM A2 FOR) WINGING IT WITH OLD TULIN STOCK There was a question here a while back """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""" about the NEC CD-ROM driver for the GS that Tulin Technologies used to sell. It is now available from wing_cheung@compuserve.com He is a former employee of Tulin. I don't know the price yet. -Gareth (GARETH, 7508, GO COM A2 FOR) SSII FOR THE UNINITIATED I don't know if everyone here knows about """""""""""""""""""""""" Shareware Solutions II and about all the various Apple II products available from Shareware Solutions II, so I wanted to post just a little bit about SSII and its operations, and to let you know that tech support for any SSII products is available right here. o Shareware Solutions II is a 20 page general interest Apple II newsletter that has been published since mid-1993. 17 issues have been published to date; Issue 18 is currently being worked on. o Shareware Solutions II is the Publisher of Harmonie, a set of GS/OS printer drivers that allow the use of HP DeskJet and LaserJet printers on an Apple IIGS. o Shareware Solutions II is the exclusive worldwide distributor for the entire Apple II product line from WestCode Software, including Pointless, HardPressed, InWords, TypeSet and TypeWest. o Shareware Solutions II is the publisher of Addressed For Success, a IIGS desktop-based mailing list program. o Shareware Solutions II is the exclusive distributor of CheckWorks, a complete checking account system for use from within AppleWorks Classic. o Shareware Solutions II continues to distribute all the back issues of Resource-Central's (ICON's) HyperCard based Script-Central - available on 3.5" disks or on CD-ROM. o Shareware Solutions II is now the exclusive distributor of Resource- Central's (ICON's) HyperStudio based Studio City - available on 3.5" disks or on CD-ROM. o Shareware Solutions II distributes all the back issues of Resource Central's flagship publication: A2 Central on Disk. o Shareware Solutions II distributes the entire NAUG collection; that includes 400 or more disks of AppleWorks related materials, and all of the 60+ back issues of "NAUG On Disk." o Shareware Solutions II is currently distributing the last of the IIe/IIc games inventory from BRCC, and is now offering a special deal on Neuromancer and Dragon Wars. o Shareware Solutions II is now the exclusive distributor for two games for the Apple IIGS by Bright Software: The Gate and Space Fox. o Shareware Solutions II publishes Bill Heineman's Contacts GS name and address NDA database. o Shareware Solutions II is the worldwide distributor of Brutal Deluxe's Convert 3200 and "Brutal Deluxe's LemminGS." o Shareware Solutions II is the exclusive distributor of Cynthia Field's "A+ Home Organizer" set of AppleWorks GS templates and her HyperCard IIGS based "Better Safe Than Sorry" disk that teaches children about safety. o Lastly, Shareware Solutions II has a library of freeware/shareware disks just keeps growing and growing. Additional info on all of the above can be found at http://www.crl.com/~joko or by asking here. Joe Kohn (JOE_KOHN, 7527, GO COM A2 FOR) >>>>> You forgot one item: """"" o Shareware Solutions II is one of those Apple II *MUST HAVE* items. If you don't subscribe, you're missing out on a whole world of Apple II. Regards, Richard (RICHARD_B, 7530, GO COM A2 FOR) SYSTEM SAVER PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE Back when I was on Genie, Harold """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" brought up that the MOV's inside the Kensington System Saver GS should be replaced from time to time. Now, I thought that a good idea at the time, but never got around to doing that as I didn't have a soldering iron, and hadn't really looked into buying one. Boy, was that a mistake. And dangerous. Several days back (almost two weeks ago), I was sitting and working at both my computers when all of a sudden there was a BAMPF from the area of the GS. I wasn't certain if anything had happened because everything was still running. I got up to look around and started checking closely around my GS when I started smelling smoke. At this point, the GS got shut down as fast as I could manage it. Then I started taking things apart, and finally got to the system saver...removed the screws so I could take it apart, and the inside was very black and had some melted plastic ans was quite hot, especially right above were the blown MOV was. At this point, the first thing that came to mind was all the times that I had left my GS running while I was gone. This could have been very devastating if this had happened while I was out. I don't know if it could have started a fire, but it sure seems like it could have. So, if you have a IIGS with a system saver, I have two things to say...either replace the MOV's regularly, or don't leave it running unattended. I'm sure someone will be along shortly with more information, after all, I never would have know what the MOV's were if it weren't for Harold Hislop. Yea, so I sound a bit doomsdayish...this scared me when it just kept on running and generating heat and who knows what else. Greg B. (GREGBUCHNER, 8141, GO COM A2 FOR) BEST ISPS, APPLE II STYLE Sorry about starting a new thread, but I """"""""""""""""""""""""" haven't seen an appropriate topic for this question. If there is a more appropriate topic, would TPTB's please move this. Since we can't (as far as I know) ignore anything on Delpi, I should see any responses. :) I am thinking of finally getting an ISP. This is primarily because I want to speed up my Internet access and I am limited to 14.4 at my Sprintnet node. I thought if I got a local ISP I would be able to upgrade to 56K. Actually, I looked into getting a cable modem, but my cable company says that it will be at least two years before my neighborhood is upgraded to be able to handle Internet access. (: So, my question. What questions should I be asking the ISP's about their service? Obviously I should ask what speed (and flavor) their modems are, and some other things I have gleaned from my lurking have come to mind, but I am not sure I have thought of everything. :) Do I need shell access, or can I get by with TCP/IP? Is this different from PPP? Should I ask how many modems and customers they have? Of course I need to ask about money. I don't plan on having a Web site, so how important is having Megs of space? Do I need to mention that I will be using an Apple IIGS, or should I just ignore it and assume that I will be able to figure out how to get to them? Any help will be much appreciated. David R. Pierce (DAVID_PIERCE, 8800, GO COM A2 FOR) >>>>> If you're going to get an ISP for your IIgs to use you should """"" really have a shell account. Having an account that supports SLIP *AND* PPP is also a plus. The IIgs can do SLIP now, and PPP is on the way. These connection protocols allow you to establish a TCP/IP connection; which actually networks you to the internet and gives you an IP address over a dial-up connection. Of course, modem speeds are an important issue, but any ISP that plans on staying in business will have at very minium, 28.8 connections. Personally, I tell them I'm using a IIgs when they ask, but that can sometimes be the wrong thing to do. For instance, if you go to CompUSA and ask for an ADB keyboard for your IIgs; they'll probably say they only have ADB keyboards for macs, because they don't know this is the same thing. Either way, just make sure they know that you need text shell access. --Dan "GSer" Krass 'On the Metal' (GSER, 8805, GO COM A2 FOR) >>>>> Shell access is a must have for a GS right now, although some """"" access can use Slip with Marinetti. So you want one with both Shell and Slip. Later, Marinetti will support PPP. Slip and PPP are transmission protocols that TCP/IP uses to communicate. You will need some space for files that you download from other places with Lynx or FTP, as these will only come to your ISP workspace and you then download them from there with your comm software, using X-Y-or Zmodem. Most ISPs give you at least 5 meg, which should be adequite, with proper management. By all means, tell them you will be using an Apple IIgs, with terminal emulation or Slip. Then they can tell you what you need to know to use each. -- Carl Knoblock - Telephone Tech - Via Crock O' Gold v2.0 Follow the Yellow Brick Road to KFest 10 - July 22-26, 1998 cknoblo@novia.net (CKNOBLO, 8809, GO COM A2 FOR) >>>>> I agree with Carl. You may get someone in tech support who thinks """"" you're nuts trying to use an "obsolete" computer, but there is also a chance you might talk to someone who has some background with the Apple II. In that case, he or she could end up being a very valuable resource, and may take an active interest in what you're doing and offer special assistance when needed. You never know .... there are a lot of folks out there who cut their computer teeth on the Apple II, and many of them still feel some allegiance to this fine computer. Max Jones, Juiced.GS (http://users.ids.net/~kerwood/juiced.gs) Message delivered by Spectrum 2.1 and Crock O' Gold 2.0 (JUICEDGS, 8813, GO COM A2 FOR) COG PRAISES. . . If you thought COG 1.x was fun to use, you're gonna """""""""""""""" =love= COG 2.0. I've been helping Ewen beta test COG2 for the past couple of weeks, and it has been quite an experience. :-) We on the beta team tried to ride COG2 pretty hard, but we had a tough time keeping up with the master programmer. Ewen can certainly squash bugs as fast you can find them. Anyway, I hope all you Spectrum users enjoy COG2 as much as I do. It is one more awesome add-on to an already awesome application. Max Jones, Juiced.GS (http://users.ids.net/~kerwood/juiced.gs) Message delivered by Spectrum 2.1 and Crock O' Gold 2.0 (JUICEDGS, 8369, GO COM A2 FOR) . . . AND PROBLEMS I discovered to day that I can't download a file """""""""""""""""" manually from COG2 :( most of the files I download manual, because I'm usually on line when I read about a file or files Cog v1.4 would allow me access to the receive file protocols. Cog2 won't! :( Was this a oversight!! ;( Calvin Knaff ***** Spectrum v2.1 & Crock.O.Gold v2.0***** (CKNAFF, 8410, GO COM A2 FOR) >>>>> I don't know what you mean my "manually from COG2". I thought the """"" point was to do it automatically. I always select files while reading offline, and it downloads on the next pass. That still works just fine. -- Carl Knoblock - Telephone Tech - Via Crock O' Gold v2.0 Follow the Yellow Brick Road to KFest 10 - July 22-26, 1998 cknoblo@novia.net (CKNOBLO, 8422, GO COM A2 FOR) >>>>> If you make a manual connection using COG2, and thus remain within """"" the COG2 script set, then you will not have access to the Spectrum menus. This is deliberate. The manual mode was intended for the odd times that you might want to do something manually as COG2 is first and foremost an offline reader. If you want to make downloads, they will actually be quicker if you know the filenames, and tell COG2 to download them next time you are online, which can of course be a minute or so later. However if you want to make downloads while still online, all you need to do is to 'Return to Spectrum' and leave the COG2 script set. You will then have access to the Spectrum menus once more, but will need to logoff manually. Ewen Wannop - Speccie Message delivered by Crock O' Gold 2.0 and Marinetti TCP/IP! http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ewannop/ (EWANNOP, 8423, GO COM A2 FOR) RUMOR MILL """""""""" THIS MONTH'S BLATANT TEASER I have received a "teaser" e-mail about some """"""""""""""""""""""""""" new hardware that's to be released for the Apple IIgs. I got two pictures (which tell me very little), and a note that: * There will be a new add-on card for the Apple IIgs * More info earliest April-May 1998 * The card could be quite interesting to "certain" people * It won't be a SCSI or IDE adapter Weird. I'm waiting to hear more, anyway :). For a look at the pix, go to { my home page}. If you have any thoughts on what this card might do, please share. Yours Sönke (SBEHRENS, 8655, GO COM A2 FOR) DELPHI--TEXT OR WEB? I'm a Genie refugee, though I still maintain my """""""""""""""""""" account over there and check it regularly. I've had Delphi for several months, but only started using it this past month, when my favorite sections of CompuServe converted to the new, ASCII-less software. I started off with an Apple //e, prolly about as early as they came out. I traded it in for a IIgs in 1988, which served as an accelerated //e for a good many years. When I started plugging away at CompuServe (using Smartcom and an Apple Personal Modem, no less!), I learned my stock machine couldn't do many of the things I wanted it to - and so, with recommendations from the likes of Scott Everts and Loren Damewood, began a long series of upgrades. I bought a second IIgs in '93 and ran a BBS until late summer '97. In May of this year, I bought a PowerBook 1400cs and registered a copy of Bernie, and now use the Mac as my school computer (a freshman majoring in computer science) and my Apple II at home. I do have a question about Delphi, though. I'm glad to find that this service has a text-based access that is becoming increasingly rare nowadays. But I keep hearing that the level of text access is decreasing while web usage is increasing, and that the future of Delphi lies in the Web. Although Marinetti might change things, the Web as it exists today can be very unfriendly to an Apple II user, with its inlines and applets and whatnot. What I'm wondering is, how much longer will Delphi be a friendly place? How strong is their commitment to ASCII? -Ken ken.gagne@genie.com kgagne@ziplink.net kgagne@wpi.edu 75162.3001@compuserve.com "Kenji" in Delphi cons :) (KEN_GAGNE, 8181, GO COM A2 FOR) >>>>> First off, while Delphi does offer access to the Forums by the web, """"" it is 100% Lynx friendly access to the Forums (and by Forums I mean the bulletin board like Forum, not the Forum in the greater sense :) You can read every message on the A2 Forum's uh, Forum with Lynx 2.7.1. You can also read them all with an offline reader through a telnet or dial up account. Great pains have been undertaken to ensure this. While you can't access chat from the Web without a Java supporting browser, you can participate in the chats from a telnet or other text account. Delphi is currently, and appears that it will continue to be, 100% text friendly. It's also a rather impressive technological achievement that everything is friendly on both sides (as opposed to say, Compuserve, which is retreating from being text friendly, and AOL, which never was text friendly). Personally, for someone who has access to a graphical browser with Java on a relatively speedy machine, as well as telnet access, I vastly prefer the telnet access. > What I'm wondering is, how much longer will Delphi be a friendly place? > How strong is their commitment to ASCII? Pretty darn strong by their actions. Ryan Think KFest '98! Delivered by OLRight! scripts for ANSITerm (RSUENAGA, 8192, GO COM A2 FOR) >>>>> The future of every online service and quasi online service likes """"" in the Web. That means that good business sense requires that development efforts, new products, etc, be strongly web oriented. It does NOT require anyone to get rid of text. >>"What I'm wondering is, how much longer will Delphi be a friendly place? >> How strong is their commitment to ASCII?" Delphi did a darned smart thing last year. In making the plans to convert the purely text based Delphi service to a Web based service, they deliberately set things up so that the message bases on both the text and web sides are fed from the same data. That is, when you post a message on the text side, that message is mirrored on the Web side forum software, and when you post a message on the Web side, that message is mirrored on the text side forum software. This is because both the web and the text software use the same message base files. The effect of this is that, with the use of Telnet, Delphi can keep the text side software running as long as the hardware that supports it continues to function. :) Gary R. Utter (UTTER, 8221, GO COM A2 FOR) PUBLIC POSTINGS """"""""""""""" KFEST BLATANT PLUG, WINTER EDITION We're still here. """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" The memories of KFest '97 are still fresh in everyone's mind. Has it already been four months since we all left Avila? Hard as it is to believe, yes it has been. But fear not: KFest 10 approaches! We know that it's hard to think of the hottest Apple II event of the year when you're busy bundling up for a cold winter, but we here at the KFest committee wanted to just give you a reminder to put away some of that Christmas money and submit your vacation requests so that you can make the tenth edition of the legendary event in honor of the computer that started it all. Make sure you mark your calendars for July 22-26. KFest 10 will be sponsored by InTrec Software, makers of ProTERM telecommunications software for the Apple family of computers. KFest 10 questions, even at this early date, can be directed via email to cindyadams@delphi.com. Keep warm this winter by thinking about the hot Apple II event in the summer heat of Kansas City: think KFest 10! The Kfest Committee (JUICEDGS, 8470, GO COM A2 FOR) HYPERQUARTERLY COMES THROUGH AGAIN I mailed out the latest issue of Hyper """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" Quarterly last week, and thought I'd let you all know that the web page describing the new issue is now online at: http://people.delphi.com/appleblossom/hq/ This issue has several new stacks, all of which are described in my usual run-on detail on the web site. For those who don't know what Hyper Quarterly is, there is a FAQ on the site, but in a nutshell, Hyper Quarterly is the only Apple IIGS software subscription around. Four times annually subscribers get a two disk set of HyperCard IIGS stacks that continue to show off the versatility of the GS's most accessible programming environment. Each issue also includes news and articles to help folks in their own programming efforts. Hyper Quarterly is currently subscribed to by nearly 50 people in the U.S., Mexico, England, and Canada. For more information, feel free to email me. (APPLEBLOSSOM, 7687, GO COM A2 FOR) >>>>> Steve forgot to mention, Hyper Quarterly ROCKS! """"" (HANGTIME, 7718, GO COM A2 FOR) >>>>> It sure does. Very nice job on the second issue, guys! Hangtime's """"" front end (main stack, whatever you call it) is fantastic. One suggestion: I would prefer regular scrollbars to those fancy up/down buttons on some screens. Also, you can keep hitting that down button way beyond where the text ends (you just get a bunch of blank screens.) Does HyperCard support the extended keyboard? I'm so used to the PageUp and PageDown keys for navigating text windows that I go nuts when they don't work. But those are just little nits to pick. Hyper Quarterly rocks! ---------------------------------------------------- Tony Ward, A2 Database Manager [Delivered with Spectrum 2.1 and Crock O' Gold 1.4] (TONYW1, 7768, GO COM A2 FOR) ANOTHER NEW OLRIGHT! ================= ANNOUNCEMENT ================ """""""""""""""""""" OLRight! version 3.0 has been uploaded to the A2 Database. If all goes well, it should be in the Telecommunications topic as OLRight30.BXY shortly. This is a MAJOR rewrite, with changes too many to list here. Some of the more significant: o All scripts have been examined and tuned up to improve speed of loading and execution. o The user interface is more tightly integrated, with a single Forum chooser used for all Forum/Database/Conference activities. o A generic file reader has been added, giving menu-selected access to a variety of data files that are generated and/or used by OLRight! o A Help menu has been added. Portions of the documentation have been rewritten and reformatted for access within the main menu. o The login routines have undergone a major upgrade, in an attempt to improve reliability for users with slower systems. o Direct support has been added for accessing Delphi through the ANSITerm Dial menu or other user script files. o You may define separate Signatures for each Forum that you access. o Forum and mail messages are named and saved automatically (finally!). o All dialogs requiring a one-key response (e.g. - Y/n) have been converted from a 'get' dialog to a true one-key dialog. All such dialogs have error-checking for appropriate input. o The Address Book may now be menu-selected for editing, and is accessible from the mail reader as well as for addressing new messages. o There is a menu selection for checking the status of transmitted mail, and deleting old outgoing mail messages. o Major upgrade to the file upload routines. .. and much, much, much more!!! - Don (IronTooth) Delivered by my ANSITerm off-line reader scripts... They're OLRight! (DZAHNISER, 8451, GO COM A2 FOR) <<<<< ANYONE UPGRADING TO OLRight! v3.0... """"" There is a new Help menu. The files accessed by the Help menu are in new folder in the OLR directory structure. If you want to use Help, you must re-install the OLR folders using the Installer script. There should be no problem running the script to update your current OLR setup, with one exception: If you have a SIGLIST (your list of Forums) that you don't want to have to rebuild, rename it to something like SIGLIST.OLD, run the installer script, then delete the new SIGLIST and rename SIGLIST.OLD back to SIGLIST. If you don't do this, your old SIGLIST file will be replaced with one that contains only the setup information for the A2 Forum. This is assuming that you are running OLRight! version 2.3 - If you have not updated to that version, you should just plan on rebuilding your SIGLIST file using the Setup/Forums menu selection. BTW - You are not _required_ to update the installation to use the Help menu files. If you choose one of the options, you will get a 'File does not exist' message, and OLRight! will return you to the main menu. - Don (IronTooth) Delivered by my ANSITerm off-line reader scripts... They're OLRight! (DZAHNISER, 8538, GO COM A2 FOR) ANOTHER COG IN THE WHEEL In case you missed the note from Tony Diaz, """""""""""""""""""""""" Crock O' Gold 2.0 is now available from the Telecommunications Topic under the name COG2.BXY For v1.0 users, just highlight the filename, and click on the 'tick' button. Then select 'Telecommunications' as the topic, and make another run... Enjoy... Ewen Wannop - Speccie Message delivered by Crock O' Gold 2.0 and Marinetti TCP/IP! http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ewannop/ (EWANNOP, 8363, GO COM A2 FOR) <<<<< In message 'RE: GS-specific uploads (Re: Msg 15)' T_DIAZ said: """"" > ----------> Here it is!!!! > > Name: COG2.BXY Type: Hot Stuff! Date: 8-DEC-1997 06:22 By : EWANNOP > Size: 505088 First of all my thanks to the Dremel King for getting COG2 released in record time! For those who did not make it to Joe's RTC on Genie last night, here is the Feature list: Changed or new features in COG v2.0 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ New System Menu bar replaces button menus Access to NDAs from within COG2 Access to Spectrum Editor from within COG2 Access to Scrollback window Access to Capture Buffer window Access to Clipboard window Setup a message search Setup an email search Setup a database search Redirect your mail Include message with 'attached' mail files Optional 'taglines' with your signatures Improved manual connect function Easy selection of connect method Onboard Marinetti TCP/IP support Optional stop during an auto run Auto-run at specified time Optionally captures every banner Online status window shows current function Embedded prompts no longer stop capture Editable address book uses Nicknames While viewing messages ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ New Mail available while reading messages Optional saving into a specified archive Button functions also available from menu Better message navigation: True Backwards or Forwards moves Jump in message file with OA-keys Start Thread as well as End Thread Improved Search function Keeps current position in file Flags files with unread messages And a host of other neat features... Ewen Wannop - Speccie Message delivered by Crock O' Gold and Marinetti TCP/IP! http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ewannop/ (EWANNOP, 8362, GO COM A2 FOR) <<<<< Crock O' Gold bug alert! """"" ------------------------ 'Habanero' has found a bug in the 'Set.Search' COG2.x script. If you press Cancel when selecting, it generates a script error. To fix that, open the 'Set.Search' script in the Editor, and go to the last line of that script. You will see a 'Pop' at the start of the line. Just change that to 'Pop All'... Ewen Wannop - Speccie Message delivered by Crock O' Gold 2.0 and Marinetti TCP/IP! http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ewannop/ (EWANNOP, 8762, GO COM A2 FOR) ANOTHER ORDER OF JUICED Announcing ... """"""""""""""""""""""" ===== Juiced.GS, Volume 2, Issue 4 ===== The Fall 1997 edition of Juiced.GS, the Apple II world's premier IIGS-specific magazine, will soon begin arriving in subscriber mail boxes in the U.S., Canada, Mexico, and other points around the world. This issue is being mailed to 299 paid subscribers in 44 states and 11 foreign countries. Here's what you'll find in this issue: ============ FEATURES Cover Story: It takes more than products to keep the IIGS going strong. It takes people ... dedicated people. People who remain committed to making their machines do what they were not intended to do. One of those people is Ewen Wannop of the United Kingdom. In an in-depth interview with Juiced.GS, Wannop, author of Spectrum and other telecommunications gems, tells what keeps him going. Review: An closer look at the Focus Drive, the internal hard disk from Alltech Electronics. Hardware: Enhancing the System Saver IIGS ... Stephen Buggie is back to share his knowledge about improving air flow and lessening the fan noise in the Kensington System Saver IIGS. Telecommunications: Marinetti in Motion ... TCP/IP for the IIGS is up and running! Here's an update on development progress and some prognostications on what's ahead. COLUMNS My Home Page: The beat goes on ... Juiced.GS will publish in 1998! All aboard .... II Be Named Later: Our columnist, Ryan Suenaga, ponders the possibilities of evangelizing the Apple II. DEPARTMENTS Shareware Spotlight: FreeCell GS, freeware from Jeremy Hack, is the featured program in the spotlight this issue. Another edition of the Juiced.GS Collection is also unveiled. DumplinGS: SuperConvert 4.0 has been released; Seven Hills is holding a big software sale; Tulin products are still available from a former Tulin associate; and much, much more. Letters from the Land of Rom ... Juiced.GS readers ask questions, get answers, and tell us what's on their minds. ============ Juiced.GS is a quarterly, printed publication available by subscription only. A subscription for 1998 is $14 in the U.S., Canada or Mexico, $20 elsewhere. To subscribe, send a check or money order in U.S. funds to: Max Jones Juiced.GS 2217 Lakeview Drive Sullivan, IN 47882 Makes checks or money orders payable to Max Jones. Sorry, no credit cards or purchase orders can be accepted. Complete sets of 1996 and 1997 issues are available for $14 each. If you would like to purchase only a specific single copy (or copies) of back issues, they are available for $4 each. An index and brief description of articles published in 1996 are available on the Juiced.GS web site. See URL below. Apple II Forever! Max Jones Juiced.GS Delphi: JuicedGS -- Internet: juicedgs@delphi.com World Wide Web: http://users.ids.net/~kerwood/juiced.gs (JUICEDGS, 8400, GO COM A2 FOR) BEST OF THE BEST """""""""""""""" 8763 25-DEC 06:03 General Chatter First Delphi X-Mas From: NICKH To: ALL First I would like to wish all the staff members that manage our forums and conferences a Merry X-Mas and hope all have a safe and proserous New Year. I would like to thank all at delphi, users and members alike, by conveying to you that the access that delphi provides has instilled new life into my use and enjoyment of the IIGS. The "Community" at delphi has been amuzing, educational and an entirely new experience that can only be experienced and not verbally expressed adequately. The adventure of the Apple II has been re-kindled. Merry Christmas. NickH Message delivered By Spectrum 2.1, Crock O' Gold 2.0, Marinetti TCP/IP from an Apple IIGS. [EOA] [SIZ]------------------------------ SIZZLING SHAREWARE | ----------------------------------- MUG! V1.01 by Peter Watson """""""""""""""""""""""""" by Ryan M. Suenaga, B.A., M.S.W., L.S.W. [thelamp@delphi.com] MSDOS Utilities Graphic !nterface ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Program Name: MSDOS Utilities Graphic !nterface File Name: MUG101.BXY Database: Apple Operating System File Size: 117248 Program Type: New Desk Accessory Author: Peter Watson Version Reviewed: 1.01 Distribution: Shareware, $15 U.S. dollars, see ReadMe for details Requirements: 125K of drive space (40K additional for text and preference files), System 6 or later, MFM capable drive With GS System Software 6.0.1 came a file called the MSDOS.FST. Translated from Computerese, this was the Microsoft Disk Operating System File System Translator, and it gave the IIgs the remarkable ability to read from disks formatted using the Microsoft Disk Operating System, also known as MSDOS. It required special hardware (a SuperDrive or equivalent connected to a SuperDrive card, floppy drives driven by a PC Transporter or a BlueDisk card, or a Floptical drive), but it was an incredible accomplishment, of use particularly to those who needed to work with a MSDOS or Windows machine at work. Unfortunately, Apple finished writing System Software for the Apple II before they added the ability to write to disks formatted with MSDOS. This was almost tragic, as there was just as much need to write to MSDOS disks as there was to read from them. Of course, being the creative, never-say-die bunch they are, Apple II programmers took matters into their own hands, and Australian Peter Watson came up with MSDOS Utilities, a shell based set of utilities that would allow IIgs users with the proper hardware to not only read MSDOS disks, but to write to them and format them as well. A cult shareware hit, it found favor with users who were comfortable with the command line interface, including myself, although I admit to having a cheat sheet of MSDOS Utilities commands taped to the shelf to my left. Unfortunately for the more squeamish among us (meaning those who loved the grace of the IIgs Desktop and the graphical interface), MSDOS Utilities was intimidating and difficult to use. Faced with this dilemma, Watson went back to work, trying to integrate the power of the MSDOS Utilities with the friendly desktop interface of the IIgs. The result is MUG!, aka MSDOS Utilities Graphical !interface, a New Desk Accessory that attempts to bring the point and click mouse driven interface of the IIgs to MSDOS Utilities. How well did Peter do in his effort? Installing MUG! was a simple process. After using Balloon 2.0 NDA to unpack the archive, I copied MUG! and the other files in the archive to my */SYSTEM/DESK.ACCS folder, and restarted (note for you IR fans: I was unable to successfully start MUG! with IR). As expected, MUG! showed up under the familiar rainbow colored Apple menu after startup was complete. Reading the documentation, it is clear that MUG! is far more ambitious than it would first appear. Mr. Watson sought not only to bring to the Apple IIgs user the functionality of writing to MSDOS disks, he sought to outdo Apple itself by providing far more function reading MSDOS formatted disks than the MSDOS.FST provides. The MSDOS.FST can only handle floppy diskettes with the traditional eight-dot-three file name (a maximum file name length of eight characters, followed by a ".", known as a "dot", followed by a three character extension, identifying the type of file it is--in the case of a file named LAMP.TXT, for instance, a TXT or text file). However, MUG! not only reads these floppies with traditional filenames, it can handle the Windows 95 "long" file names, large removable media (such as Zip Disks or SyQuest cartridges), and even PC Transporter MSDOS partition files). As previously mentioned, Apple's software does not provide for writing to MSDOS disks at all. MUG!, on the other hand, will format disks, rename files, copy files, and rename volumes. With a very clean, simple look, MUG! provides three different types of functions: File Functions; Disk Tools and miscellaneous and help functions. The miscellaneous and help functions include the preferences, which allow you to tell MUG! where your PC Transporter MSDOS partition files are, and to add/strip linefeeds while copying text files. If you've ever been given a text file on a MSDOS disk with control characters at the end of every line, you'll appreciate this option; an "About" dialog; and the "Read Me" help file, which will tell you all about MUG! as well as how to register it. The Disk Tools will give you the power to get information about a MSDOS formatted diskette (more information than you might have known existed!), change a disk's label (the volume name, in Apple II terms), and, of most people's interest, do disk copies (one MSDOS formatted diskette to another, identical one, using one drive) and format MSDOS disks. Typically, Peter gives you more options than you can imagine with most of these--for example, the format dialog box lets you name the volume, choose the interleave, do a "quick format", skipping the low-level formatting, or use the standard GS/OS initialization dialog for those who want to simplify life. For most users, the heart of MUG! will be the File Functions--not only can you copy, delete, and rename files as well as create new folders, you can set a file's attributes (to make it hidden or read only, for instance) and view files (either as text or hexadecimal)--something I find myself using regularly. In keeping with a theme, "view file" doesn't do the function justice; you can also save the contents, copy to the clipboard, or print out the file you're viewing. I haven't found any drawbacks to MUG! at this point aside from the aforementioned inability to start it up with IR, and no bugs to speak of. Note, however, that until you pay the shareware fee and get a registered version, it will pop up a self-declared "annoying dialog box" to remind you you still need to register it. I find it an indispensable tool for anyone who must use an MSDOS machine in addition to a IIgs. Peter Watson's perseverance has paid off in giving us not only incredible power, but incredible ease of use. You've earned your shareware fee, Peter. [EOA] [WEB]------------------------------ WEB SLINGING 101 | ----------------------------------- Delphi Forums And The Apple II ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ by Ryan M. Suenaga, B.A., M.S.W., L.S.W. [thelamp@delphi.com] Using Lynx To Check Out Delphi A2 and A2Pro ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The Apple II has always been, above all, flexible, and the Delphi Online Service is much like the Apple II in that regard. One of the hallmarks of the flexibility of both has been their ability to change with the times. The Apple II can read the oldest 5.25 inch disks running APPLEVISION, or a 2.88 meg 3.5 inch disk formatted under MSDOS. It can act as a teletype terminal at 300 baud or cruise the Internet at 57600. Delphi can act like the old online service that is strictly text based and dial-up accessible, or it can be accessed via the newest cable modems and Internet cruisers. Not only has Delphi found a way to be very affordable for most users--with telnet access as low as $35 a year--it has even found a way to give free access to users coming in through the World Wide Web! Users of advanced graphical browsers that are "cookie-aware" (more on this later) can check out the content in the Delphi Forums, as well as use a Java based chat application that allows users to chat with other Delphi members. Apple II users have not been totally left out in the cold. While there is no Java compiler for the Apple II series of computers--and therefore no web-based chat--there are several web browsers which are usable with the Apple II. Of these, the ubiquitous Lynx browser is able to access the Delphi Forums. While the single graphical World Wide Web browser available to the Apple II set, the _Spectrum Internet Suite_, is unable to handle "cookies"--small pieces of data set by your web browser at the request of the web site you are accessing--the latest versions of the UNIX based browser Lynx (2.7 and later, current is 2.7.1), on the other hand, handle cookies well. When you access Delphi via the World Wide Web, Delphi insists on setting cookies, and Lynx can handle them while Spectrum Internet Suite is not yet able to. You will have to allow Delphi to set cookies when you're accessing it with Lynx or any other web browser, or you will not be allowed access. If your Internet Service Provider (ISP) does not have a recent version of Lynx installed, you can do one of three things: 1) Ask them to install a more recent version; 2) Use your personal space on their server to install your own; or 3) Find a publicly accessible recent version of Lynx. All of these are beyond the scope of this article. Once you've started up your late model version of the Lynx browser, hit the 'g' key to go to a location, then type in: http://www.delphi.com/dir-login/index.asp That is known as the Uniform Resource Locator, or URL. This will take you to the area where you can sign in to Delphi. If you are new to Delphi, you can also sign up for a free account here. Simply fill in the blanks: Delphi needs to know your first name, last name, nickname, email address, membername (the name you will use on Delphi, which becomes your email address on Delphi--in my case, rsuenaga, hence the email rsuenaga@delphi.com), password, zip code (if you're in the United States of America), and birth date. If you already have a Delphi membership, you can log in here. Simply fill in your membername and password, then hit the "Log In" button. It is possible that after you ask Delphi to register your membership or let you login, you will get an error message asking you to P)roceed, use G)et, or C)ancel--if you get this message, hit the 'g' key to use G)et. You will then be logged onto Delphi! Remember, while you can access the Delphi Forums (the message boards) via Lynx, you can't hit the Databases (libraries) or Conference (chat areas) with it. For that, you would need a dialup or telnet account. To get to the A2 Web page on Delphi, direct your browser to the following URL: http://www.delphi.com/apple2 Here you will find some articles of Apple II interest, and information about Delphi and the A2 Forum. To get to the actual message board, you need to go to: http://forums.delphi.com/mb/mbmain.cfm?sigdir=apple2 From Lynx, you will see something like: [BEGINNING OF SCREEN SHOT]--------------------------------------------------- A2 (Apple II) Message Board (p1 of 6) [LINK] [LINK] Message Board Computing & the Net Chat Room Show Messages New Find Agenda Member Log Help [LINK] _________________________________________________________________ _____ ______ /_____|/______\ The Apple II Forum /__/|__| ___|__| ____________________ /__/_|__| /_____/ /________|/__/ a Delphi Community (DC) /__/ |__|__/______ /__/ |__|________/ Host : Chuck Stites (CHUNK_S) A2 - the Apple II Forum on Delphi - brought to you by Syndicomm _________________________________________________________________ -- press space for next page -- Arrow keys: Up and Down to move. Right to follow a link; Left to go back. H)elp O)ptions P)rint G)o M)ain screen Q)uit /=search [delete]=history list [END OF SCREEN SHOT]--------------------------------------------------------- Congratulations! You've successfully reached the message board! If you use the space key to continue down, you will see something like this: [BEGINNING OF SCREEN SHOT] -------------------------------------------------- A2 (Apple II) Message Board (p2 of 6) Recent conversations containing Unread messages. General Chatter [INLINE] Happy New Year! 1 msg from 12/31/97 11:12:00 AM [INLINE] Holiday Greetings! 2 msgs - Newest 12/31/97 7:18:00 AM [INLINE] Recycle Apple IIGS for its Silicon? 8 msgs - Newest 12/29/97 7:48:00 PM [INLINE] Lounge - General Chatter 8 new up to 12/26/97 6:06:00 AM (102 total) [INLINE] First Delphi X-Mas 1 msg from 12/25/97 6:03:00 AM [INLINE] Merry Christmas! 2 msgs - Newest 12/25/97 12:06:00 AM Productivity Software [INLINE] Classic AppleWorks - All version 4 new up to 1/1/98 5:46:00 PM (46 total) -- press space for next page -- Arrow keys: Up and Down to move. Right to follow a link; Left to go back. H)elp O)ptions P)rint G)o M)ain screen Q)uit /=search [delete]=history list [END OF SCREEN SHOT] -------------------------------------------------------- You can highlight the subjects next to the [INLINE] indicators to check out messages on the subject. Delphi uses what's known as a "threaded" message system, where new messages refer to old ones. If we highlight the "Happy New Year!" subject, then hit the return key, we will see a message posted by Jim Sassman, aka JSASSMAN, with some ASCII art to celebrate the coming of 1998. There will also be two other buttons--"REPLY" and "FORWARD". "FORWARD" will allow you to forward a copy of the message to an email address you specify; "REPLY" will let you answer the message posted. If you are interested in seeing the A2Pro areas as well as A2, you can try: http://www.delphi.com/a2pro/ for the Delphi A2Pro Forum Web Page, and: http://forums.delphi.com/mb/mbmain.cfm?sigdir=a2pro for the Delphi A2Pro message board. This short tutorial ought to be enough to get you going with surfing the Delphi Web. We will look at more of the World Wide Web with and for the Apple II in future articles. :: DISCUSSED ON DELPHI :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: : : : Any smoothly functioning technology will have the : : appearance of true magic. : : : :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: GSWOMBAT ::: [EOA] [INN]------------------------------ EXTRA INNINGS | ----------------------------------- About The Lamp! The Lamp! is published on the fifteenth of every month in """"""""""""""" the Database of the II Scribe Forum on the Delphi online service (GO CUS 11). * To reach The Lamp! on Internet email send mail to thelamp@delphi.com. * Back issues of The Lamp! are available in the II Scribe Forum on Delphi as well as The Lamp! Home Page, http://www.sheppyware.ml.org/~rsuenaga. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Opinions expressed herein are those of the individual authors, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of the Delphi Online Services, Syndicomm, Inc., or Onipa'a Software. Forum messages are reprinted verbatim and are included in this publication with permission from the individual authors. Delphi Online Services, Syndicomm, Inc. and Onipa'a Software do not guarantee the accuracy or suitability of any information included herein. We reserve the right to edit all letters and copy. Material published in this edition may not be reprinted without the expressed written consent of the publisher. Registered computer user groups, not for profit publications , and other interested parties may write the publisher to apply for permission to reprint any or all material. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< [EOF]