[National Enlightener. Th!rd B!g !ssue] [Volume 3 of 3] --------------------------------------- First off we'd like to apologize for this issue's giant size. But as you can see for yourself the ELITEZ!@#!@#!!1!!! are quite talkative. We wanted to bring you the elite msg's so you could judge for yourselves. Our own opinions are that some are pompous assholes while others are speaking the truth and to be commended. But we're not here to tell you what is good or bad, you look for yourselves and be the judge of it. We would also like to thank Mike (you know who you are), for dowloading the 14 smaller files that made up parts 1 to 3, putting them through his IBM and giving us back the 3 large segments that now make up this issue. We're unelite ][+ owners & don't have 500 meg ramcards like Infy to throw all this on. And with that, we're off! --------------------------------------- We told you in the first section with all the LOD rags (being ragged on and ragging others), that we'd get back to LOD. So here we are. Before starting on lod, it should be pointed out that there are 3 lod's at least. The lod we are talking about is Lex Luthor's, the loudest member of which is King Blotto. The "real" lod that many people confuse with lex's, had nothing to do with com- puters. This was the name of a "terrorist organazation" in CA, made up of local rich kids who got bored of sitting around getting high and decided to add some fun into their lives by killing local people and starting a miniture 3rd reich. There was a big write-up on them in a 1985 issue of Rolling Stone and there is also a movie called: Dangerously Close, based on their story. It should be noted that this lod has it origins in 1979, while lex's began in 1984. There wasn't any conflict of names since the CA group had nothing to do with comp- uters. There is also 1 more lod started by some people in NJ. It looks like a parody of lex's, or it could be that it was started without knowledge of lex's group. It is a name out of a comic book after all. Now back to lex's lod. --------------------------------------- From Blotto's own words, (reply to the Atom's rag on him): [Things in brackets are our comments, the rest is all Blotto's] (I don't see how you can say I ran a "trap" board? (Like Sherwood // thanks to that asshole, Creative Cracker) [Blotto gets upset when people accuse him of running a trap board. So what does he do? he turns around and accuses someone of the same thing.] (I don't give a damn about the number wimp, it became public domain long before you ever got it. But I don't see where you say it is easy to get onto? Were you on it? Were any of your friends? How about any people on the systems you call? No. You see, even though all you brats have the number, you could NEVER get on. I never had a security problem.) [That was in reference to his BBS # which the Atom posted. We weren't on Blottoland, we didn't care. But we didn't need to be on Blottoland, The 414 Wizard only put up everything that was ever on it, in his AE line. So while you had no "security problem" on your board. You did have a programming problem. And the same thing you did to Dragonfire came back to you in some form of poetic justice when Mr. Xerox took down your board and James put it all on his AE. Don't do to others what you wouldn't want someone to do to you, might be a stupid cliche', but it came true.] [As a aside, this is not the first time lod's boards have been crashed. While Xerox took down a string of them in 1985 & gave them to Wizard 414 (WOPR, Blottoland & LOD the board), LOD (Lex's bbs) had problems 2 months after it went up. Lex let a few pirates on it, his big mistake. The first thing one of them (Blue Adept, then of 1200 club) did, was to crash his board and take everything on it. 2 days later all of LOD was up on Diamond Jim's in CA. The reason all of the boards were so crashable was probably because none of the loddies are good programmers. Both Blottoland and LOD were running GBBS. Blottoland had the "normal" (Those put in by Greg) GBBS backdoors taken out. But Xerox still Crashed it. James' GBBS (Cryton) also had the backdoors out, but Lord Digital crashed it. So that could all be Greg's fault for writing lame bbs programs. But LOD was just lex's own stupidity. According to Adept he hadn't even removed the normal gbbs backdoors and Adept crashed it by running OBJ Cracker on his serial #. Whatever he did, it worked.] John? At least you got the Tele-Trial origin right! (You now have 3 1/2 right answers) I did start them, but you'll never know if I'm on one since you don't know anyone on the Tele-Trial Network. [Atom got Blotto's name wrong, which is as far as we know: Brad. Not that it makes some big difference what his name is. Which brings us to Tele-Trial. Another bad joke, Blotto can get someone banned from 5 boards that he is big on. The rest of the modem community couldnt care less and life goes on as usual. We see nothing wrong with it, it is even a good idea. Except for 2 things. 1) How is anyone going to enforce it? 2) What gives Blotto the right to judge anyone? answer to 2: Nothing.] Lex Luther(?) Sharp Razer(?) (You forgot non-rodents, non-assholes, and non-losers.) [The question marks signify people he claims not to know. We'll get to non rodents, assholes and losers in a minute. For now: So the Atom spelled their names wrong. Blotto knew what he meant, unless he has forgotten LOD's founder (Lex Luthor), or LOD's garbage can raider (Sharp Razor).] (The Legion of Doom is not inactive, although you seem to think it is. Your NTLS is acting up again. The 2300 Club is a local club that can run circles around people like yourself and your associates. The ELITE? I'll drink your blood for that, chicken-shit! You fit into the ELITE better than me! I hate that word. Anyone who calls them- selves elite has to be an asshole.) [This is a perfect example of Blotto in contradictions. We agree with half of it, but the other doesn't make any sense. He hates the word elite, but goes around judging people, calling this one a rodent, this one a loser, this one a asshole... If you judge someone that means you consider your- self worthy of judging them. Therefore better than they are. In other words ELITE. Whether you say it or not, does not make the difference. It's a stupid way of thinking. Reminicent of Hitler, I am elite, the jews are not. I can't explain why they're not elite, but I am and I said so, so they must all die. We dont know or care if lod is active, the 2300 club could run circles around the Atom, but then again so could a epileptic quadraplegic. Which brings us to Blotto's quote: "I'll drink your blood for that chicken-shit." That one sentence describes lod & Blotto to perfection. It is the reason lod gets its own section. It is the only group in existence that actually uses physical threats. Not only is it dumb (At worst you beat someone up, if they are wimps you win. If they have any brains, they sue you for assault. Blotto is a grown man, but makes these statements) but it's hot air. The 414 Wizard challanged lod many times, they always backed down. But that could all be one sided (James side), so we won't hold that against them, instead we will use Blotto's own quote, in which he says (in colorfull terms) that he will beat up the Atom. The Atom is one of the few people who uses his real name because he knows nothing will ever happen to him and he likes making people angry. To this day he calls at least 20 boards on a regular basis & rags on everyone and everything. The first time we saw Blotto's reply was late 1985. The Atom wrote that file in early 1985, he dates his file while Blotto doesn't. What this leads up to is Blotto threatens to beat him up, he knows who is responsible. But nothing at all has happened to the Atom. And nothing will ever happen to the Atom, because lod & Blotto can be best described as: idle boasts and empty threats. Not one person they have ever threatened has had anything happen to them. Blotto takes the time to rag on anony- mous people because there is no danger in it. "I will kill you rodent". And that's the end of it. But when he knows who is responsible he does nothing. And that's not even mentioning the other people using their real handles who rag on him: Tempest, Freeze, Xerox, Bum, etc, and some (Zero Page) going as far as ragging on his parents. We think it's all just harmless ego exertion. But there is no reason to boost your ego even further, especially by making empty threats. Does anyone who knows the Atom think he is cowering in fear? He is laughing and writing his next loserlist.] (Right again, but we can all see from your writing, that you most certainly aren't! ( 5 points strong) ) [Here blotto rags on Atom for his bad spelling. The Atom can't spell, the Atom can't do a lot of things (In case you haven't noticed, we don't much care for the Atom ourselves). But many people can't spell. Booting up the Hacker magazine from Bootleg, that James wrote is enough to show this. He is in his 20's. James has his own problems, but many older people do not, and just can't spell. Is that a crime? The Atom is in his early 20's himself & despite his spelling does go to "collage".] (I bet John Wayne and Motley Crue are some of yours.....) [This refer's to the Atom's hero's. As far as we know the Circle Jerks and Madonna are his hero's. But for our part, we like the Duke, pilgrim.] (Why don't you get real. Those files are your only source of valid info in the phreak world. Where are your files? What have you ever accomplished on your own in the business?) [We have nothing bad to say about BIOC. If he did nothing else, he at least collected the usefull portions of 5 books into a few files. Which brings us to another point: What has lod ever accomplished? We think Xerox has his own ego problems, but he was a very good cracker and programmer. What have you ever done Blotto? What did >you< write? a few files on boxing. James did more than that. He even wrote a halfway usefull program in addition to more files than Blotto ever did. What makes you so much better than James? If James is a rodent, does not logic follow that you must be one as well? By your own logic you are one. You have done less than he has. He even beats you in your major claim to fame. Newsweek. When he got busted he was on radio, TV, papers and magazines, around the country. Many more than you ever were. We think this is no way to judge someones skill, but if anyone wants to see it that way, James wins hands down, against everyone. We don't like James or the Atom. But we don't judge people just because we dont like their personalities. The Atom is no super cracker. But neither is Blotto so who is he to judge him? Blotto has every right to hate him, the Atom did rag on him. But chances are, if you were around during 1984-1985 as you say you were, than every time you unpacked a new ware, you had the Atom to thank. He wrote Disk Rigger. Which was not even a good packer/unpacker, but at the time there was nothing better. Did King Blotto come out with the next great packer? has King Blotto ever come out with >any< program? No. So why is he calling the Atom a rodent for never having accomplished anything. By his own logic, both the 414 Wizard and the Atom are lesser rodents than Blotto.] (Just because you would never have the dream of a chance to get onto the same systems as Paul, don't start calling him unknown or a jerk. He is probably the most respected phreak around now, and could tear a brat like you apart instantly.) [Why does Blotto talk for other people? He is the only pirate/phreak/hacker in the country who even bothers to reply to his hate files. When others are confronted with their shit lists, they shrug and say they don't care. Why take so much time to respond to "Rodents?" Recent examples of this are The Gonif, The Wombat, Apple Bandit, Lord Digital, and Hot Rod. Most of them had even more space devoted to rags on them than Blotto did. All of them have had files, interviews or "explanations" (Hot Rod's file which is one long explanation.), published since then. All of them said they didn't care, or thought he was a loser. Blotto booted up a word processor and wrote a reply to him 3 times as long as the Atom's rag on Blotto was to begin with. Did you get gratification out of ragging on the Atom? If you didn't, why write it? If you did, you are still no better than him.] --------------------------------------- We don't hate lod or Blotto, but thought it would be interesting to apply his own logic to himself and his group. Against his own statements, they don't hold up too well. Which brings us to our next point: Why should they? This is a hobby. This is supposed to be fun. Too many people are letting it run their lives. Even if lod was not filled with physical wimps, I thought it was a group of people who were interested in learning things. Not a 3rd rate street gang. Who is to say what a rodent or a geek or a asshole is? People who have accomplished (I'm belaboring this point because it plays such a big part in Blotto's own platform) much more than all of lod and all the other people calling them rodents put together, are being judged by people who have no right to do that. Who is anyone to say the Gonif is a rodent because he TYPEZ LIKE THIZ D00DZ!!!11!!!!!!!!!!! You think someone does that by any other way than choice? he is making a point. The point being that this does not matter, it's nothing. It is just a bunch of people with computers who were once friends many years ago, escalated into thousands of immature children flinging hate at each other. You can tell someone is a asshole from the way they act. The Atom might be a asshole from the way he acts, but he has accomplished more than enough. By the same token You (Blotto) might also be a asshole for lashing out at everyone and calling them rodents (Zaphod Beeblebrox's word, made famous by Apple Bandit). You don't even have anything positive to fall back on. But the point is: Why does anyone have to justify themselves to anyone? THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE FUN. By ELITE!@# pirate/phreak standards, The Gonif is a rodent, Dr. Micro is a rodent, many people are rodents. What makes someone a rodent? The nearest rodent test we can come up with follows: 1] Are you a conformist? : Rodent : Non Rodent 2] Do you write the way you want to. or the way other people want you to? : Rodent Non Rodent 3] Do you just not care and view this all for what it is. A hobby? : Rodent : Non Rodent 4] Can you laugh at yourself? : Rodent : ELITE!!1! 5] What is bigger? : Rodent : ELITE!!1!! --------------------------------------- Well so much for all that serious stuff onto the fun! Today in ELITE!!111 phreak/pirate counterparts. We have (Thanks to the Wombat's observations): Phreak: Lex Luthor!!!! Counterpart: Pirate: Sherlock Apple These two could be long lost brothers! Let's compare: Lex: Spends his life converting long books and manuals into even longer text files! S.A: Spends his life converting long game docs into even longer text files! Other activites: Nothing. Tune in next time when: King Blotto says: "You rodent!" The Atom says: "You rodent!" --------------------------------------- Now it's time for this issue's special: ELITE!!1!! Psychology!@#!@# or "What makes an ELITE!@, ELITE!?" =================================== On today's show we have with us: Eugene Eugene has just undergone deprogramming only 2 short weeks ago Eugene was known under the mighty name: Super Hackerman! In this issue we will talk to Eugene & try to discover what started him on the path of ELITENESS! [us] Eugene, can you hear us? [eg] [us] It's ok Eugene, we aren't going to hurt you. No more electro shock therapy! [eg] Oh. Thank you, thank you. Is it time for my medicine yet? [us] No! not yet, but if you're good you'll get triple your normal dose after our talk! [eg] That's great. I really appreciate it guys. What ya wanna talk about? [us] We just want to talk about you, or rather the old you. Super Hackerman [eg] Thuper Hackerm. .... yes, that was me! the real Eugene, he was strong and cool and knew everything and was in the best clubs & called all the boards and.. [us] We get the picture. What we really want to know is. Why? what drove you to be elite? [eg] Well I never claimed to be elite, it just happened. I was just so good and No, please guys, don't do this to me. I'll be good I will. It was just a small fallback on my old personality, please don't do that to me anymore. Please? [us] We won't. But we want the truth, not the lies you used to tell to everyone. [eg] Ok, ok, just don't hurt me........ Well it all began when I was born. I always suspected that mom & dad didn't really like me. My life went on, it was a shitty life, but at least it was better than nothing or I think it was. I can't remember I get confused easily. [us] Fast forward a little... [eg] Ok, then after 1st grade when the other guys used to pour paint on me and make me eat dogshit I.... [us] Little more.... Thanks... [eg] Oh... well then in 9th grade I got my computer and this thing called a Mo-Tem. I called lots of places with it. Then I wrote down a list of all the technical things I did not understand. Then I posted a bunch of messages full of those words. Soon people began to think I was cool. I took copya disks and put title pages on them, people loved it. And then I started a elite group with other fellow elites and then I..... [us] Thanks. Do you think you could summarize why people feel the need to be elite in 1 sentence? If you can do it, 4 times the dose of medicine!!!!1!!! [eg] oh gosh oh golly oh.... ok let me think.... It's hard for me to think.... wait a sec...... Ok I got it! Elite's feel the need to be Elite in order to make up for our real inferiority. This is the one place in the world where I am not a loser and outcast. That's why I lived my life by modem! [us] Very good Eugene. But that was 3 sentences. Sorry you lose!!!@#1!!! [eg] wait! no... I can't lose, I'm elite, I'm... no I'm not I forgot, please don't hurt me. don't do --------------------------------------- Well that wraps it up for this issue! stay tuned next time for more brilliant insights! more Elite rags! and more of everything you can expect. Only from --------------------------------------- National Enlightener! (C) 1986! If it's not NE, it's not ELITE!@#!@@#1 "I can't be wrong, I'm elite!" ---------------------------------------