***************************************************************************** ****** ****** ****** The Digital Gang: Rag File #2 ****** ****** ****** ***************************************************************************** Greetings fellow people and welcome to another session of Baging on the gang! These following text files were taken from the Specelite and explaining the following boycott of Digital Gang and anyone that has a name like Sherlock Apple and the only ones that no offense is intended for in DG are Tom E. Hawk and The Dragonlord because they don't bother us or they dont lie, back-stab, and skumbag us like the others do a 14 year old new wares kid Eddie (AKA THE TRITON runs the new wares board called The Trade Center which is the board we are boycotting) the other 2 reasons for the boycott are 1. [The Sheik] AKA Chris "The Loser" because of his inability to crack and u take credit for other peoples cracks (Like with neverending story, but that shall be explained further on in these msgs) and of course everyones friend Dave, Sherlock Apple So sit back grab a beer and read on this is only part [1] and there will be more to follow this one there are already 15 or 16 msgs in this file and the boycott was only started 12 hours ago! Numb: [16/30] Subj: Name: The Doc [Glenn] Club: Elites Anonymous Date: 7/10/86 at 08:27:01 Pm This is an official document for al the users of the SpecElite: As of July 10, 1986 - 8:19 PM, all membrs of the SpecElite are requested to BOYCOTT the Trade Center! The sysop (ak.a.-- Nu warezzz kid, or big-time l0zer) is Eddie/The Triton. I know som of you don't even call...but just support the boycott anyways. Reasons: Eddie/Triton's board is such l0ser board (warezzzwarezzzwarezzz). Also, what he did to Kam/The Cloak. Hecalled kam to log on to his board and then asked him to post. So kam out of ourtesy posted...but Kam asked eddie if he could get Locksmith 6.0 docs...afterkam posted, Eddie hung up on Kam. Kam was naturally upset and now supports ths boycott happily. The major reason I support this boycott is for what he, an Sherlock Apple did on the Trade Center. Both ragged on OGRE (Just becase they were jealous that The Talisman, Dr. Fate, I and Parity Error released ORE BEFORE they did). So they came up with every excuse in the book trying o convince everyone NOT TO GET the ware! They said stuff like.."it's onlya half disk" "graphics suck", etc...etc.. you get the picture. Sherlock Aple and The Triton have done many things such as the above to many other cool peple. We (Parity Error, The Cloak and I) think that a BOYCOTT would serve the right. Please support it and we would like to hear from ya. SUPPORTERS: Parity Error/LSD, The Doc/EA, The Cloak/Black Bag, The Talisman/First Class, The Exorcist/EA. If you can please post anything that Sherlock apple has done or The Triton that has upset you, it would be appreciated. Also, POST or leave me MAIL that you support this boycott...so we expect to ear from EVERYONE. Thank you for your kind support. Glenn/Elites Anonymous 1/24: Numb: [17/30] Subj: triton Name: The Atom [Mark] Club: Elites Anonymous Date: 7/10/86 at 08:45:18 Pm I admit Eddie has been getting off prety bad lately.. If you need another reason to boycott Edie, he's had 10 of my mac/amiga disks that I sent him with warez on the for at least a month. Every time I tell him to send them back, he gives ome BS and says he has to go. He sure is turning into a loser.. 1/24: Numb: [18/30] Subj: Sher Name: The Syringe [Mark] Club: Specelite Date: 7/11/86 at 02:40:17 Am Ol' Sherlock buddy pulled one over myu ake that my face the other week.. Remember Intracourse? Well, I was the distributer. Yeah, he called me and said some BS about "Hey all the distri- butors are out of town, and we need you to distribute this RAD ware." So I did. Mistake. He said all this about how he was going to call me back etc. but I haven't heard from him since. Sounds like I got the wool pulled over my eyes. Ts/mark 1/23: Numb: [19/30] Subj: Eddie.. Name: Red Devil [Pat] Club: Specelite Date: 7/11/86 at 10:25:33 Am [Best Win %] About 2 months ago, when someone ws releasing all of those rag wares on Digital Gang (Space Adventure, Star War), he called my house and blamed it on me! I barely ever talked to Eddie, so was trying to figure out why the hell he blamed it on me. He also blamed it n Crazy Cat, when he has >NEVER< talked to him or did anything to him in his whle life. And I will be glad to boycott the trade center. The name of his boar gives you an idea of how shitty it is. So Glenn, you got me in there too. Pat 1/23: Numb: [20/30] Subj: Oh boy Name: The Talisman [Rob] Club: First Class Date: 7/11/86 at 11:42:47 Am [Top Poster] Well, I know I've never logged onto the trade center.. Mainly because I know enough about most of the people who hang around in that group.. The Triton, of course, is the ultimate ew wares kid.. he's fucked around with me too many times to tell.. I just ignore him now.. Sherlock Apple: Old pirate. so he's cool, right? yep, even ask him... He's he biggest weasle I've ever talked to in my life.. he takes advantage of things.. Like he knows that First Class oesn't put wares out if we know someone else did first, mainly out of courtesy, so he'll lie about when things are cracked, and be a scumbag. He'll even talk to you on the phone till they're done cracking it so that you can't be doing it.. or he'll leave ou on call waiting for a year or two. The main thing that bugs me is that he on't rag to your face. he'll tell someone else to tell you, then deny it hen you call him.. he's definetly a weasel, I have many stories about him too.. I ignore him too, and that just about solves my problem. The Sheik: Many things to say.. but the most recent. He called me up with Neverending story, and wanted my help cracking it.. [cont] 1/23: Numb: [21/30] Subj: more on The Sheik Name: The Talisman [Rob] Club: First Class Date: 7/11/86 at 11:47:47 Am [Top Poster] anyways, he wanted me to help him crack everending Story.. He couldn't convert it, but had figured out the headers.. I told him what bytes, etc, to do, and converted the disk for him.. then I got their loader working.. the whole loader was encoded (everything was ROL'd I think or maybe ROR'd).. anyways, I figured out the bytes to search for, and told him what to change them to. Then he found one protection scheme (I told him here to look), and took it out. The next one he couldn't figure out really, o he sent me that portion of memory, and I found that it was just looking for Volume 34 or some weird volume, which could easily be changed to a 00 and would solve the problem.. (their loader wasn't a DOS one, don't get any trange ideas, but it DID check for volume).. anyways, it then booted and worked, but the text was garbled.. this all took about a full day. why? was it a hard crack? No.. He refused to end me the ware.. I didn't really know why then, he kept making excuses, but obviously it was because he wanted all he credit. so I was doing all this without looking at any code.. and when t didn't work perfect, he still refused to send it to me... so I told him that I couldn't help him anymore, because I couldn't see it. It took him bout 6 days after that to figure it out and get the ware out.. [cont] 1/22: Numb: [22/30] Subj: and even more Name: The Talisman [Rob] Club: First Class Date: 7/11/86 at 11:51:57 Am [Top Poster] but after the 6 days, he actually DID et it working.... I don't know how, because I don't know what he was doing.. I KNOW he was working the whole ime.. I strongly believe that either: 1) he messed up that one part he did or 2) he forgot to copy some tracks, or something equally stupid and lame.. in any case, I know for sure that the heik is NOT what I'd call a cracker.. He can convert ok, and his main ability s his patience.. he'll go through the disk and try every possible combination f "EA"s on every track till it works.. he couldn't tell what a protection routine was doing if it was in source code... I've heard rumors that there's omeone who lives near him that helps him crack, and of course gets no credit.. I know I got no credit on Neverending Story.(It doesn't matter that much, but as long as we're telling tories).. Dragon Lord: Very stuck up about his abilities on cracking.. BUT, he's an overall ok guy by me.. he's at least not a little 13 year old lying new wares kid.. The Bit is definetly cool. alented Hawk is their only real 1/22: Numb: [23/30] Subj: TOm E. Hwk Name: The Talisman [Rob] Club: First Class Date: 7/11/86 at 11:53:38 Am [Top Poster] is their only real talented member and can respect him for: 1) I know he is a better than decent cracker 2) I know he is a pretty good programmer too 3) He keeps a low profile, doesn't use is modem too much, and doesn't make enemies.. I don't know him, but he's all right by me. and that about sums up what I think of G> Gottajam.. Rob/FC 1/22: Numb: [24/30] Subj: AND THEN THERE WAS 6 Name: The Merchant [Chuck] Club: First Class Date: 7/11/86 at 12:26:03 Pm Well, I guess I have to add my $3.68 worth on this warmed-over delegation(I inda like that word..owell) Sherlock is in my opinion kinda a wo-faced grease ball of a wares kid...but I guess I should make him look good. He's sorta like the kid you ll know who when one person is worth befriending....that's who he hangs around and the next minute when someone etter comes around he chops his old "friend" in the back. This is getting little bit like Personality profiles(remember that hehehhe). Edd-ster, he just a shmuck -Arthur Goemez 1/22: Numb: [25/30] Subj: shiek.. Name: The Atom [Mark] Club: Elites Anonymous Date: 7/11/86 at 01:17:00 Pm Throw my 2 cents worth in.. ONly thing can remember about the sheik was when I talked to him abou cracking some football game (Joe theisman or World's greatest,I don't remember) I say "Was the disk DOS formatted or wa it a loader?" Sheik-"uhhhh, I don't know, I just craced it" I say "well, does it have a catalog anyhere?" Sheik-"Don't ask me stupid questions, Ijust got the old Transylvania crack out of Hardcore and it wored" (The transylvania crack consists of B947Mm:18, then run FID) So I get the ware from him.. It doesnt ork. Maybe a bad transfer? I'll never know.. he did wait about 2 hurs before sending it to anyone else.. And yes, the disk was comletely 3.3, just like Transylvania 1/22: Numb: [26/30] Subj: Lsd opinions Name: Parity Error [Joe] Club: Lone Star Distributors Date: 7/11/86 at 01:54:50 Pm We in Lsd have had several problems with the digital gang and Sherlock Shithead about our last four (decent) wares. The first problem was with a Trivia game called Mind Pursuit. We put it out two weeks before they did, and i received mail from sherlock apple telling me that I was a loser for being in a group that puts wares out after they did! They deleted our copy off of trade center (which had been there for two weeks) and replaced it with theirs! The second problem was with Murder on the Mississippi. We did not keep it a secret that we were working on it and sherlock apple called the sysop of apple tree so he would keep the ae line down, until they finished their copy! Needless to say, since they had the first copy on apple tree, they claimed to be the first to put it out, and ragged on us! The next problem is with trinity. One of our members had a big mouth and told eddie that we were working on it. The Sheik and The triton called back later and told him that they were done with it and would send it in 30 minutes. Two weeks later, it was still not out. Out of courtesy, we stopped working on it when we were told that it was out. cont next msg.. P.E 1/21: Numb: [27/30] Subj: Continued from last Name: Parity Error [Joe] Club: Lone Star Distributors Date: 7/11/86 at 02:04:03 Pm The final problem we have had with them, regard Ogre. They were pissed off that both Lsd and First Class burned them on it. They bought it and could not krack it quickly (I cannot understand why this could be true, but they did not krack it in time, so they were burned by days). They were pissed that they payed $40 for nothing, and posted all over Trade Center th`d it was a ware not worth getting, and that it took up only half of a disk, so it could not be good. They claimed that it takes 3-4 hours per game, and is too slow. When I pointed out that there were only 8 free blocks, that the game takes only 30 minutes (I won in half an hour) and that it is faster than other strategy games and has pull down menus, I received an apology. Then, they deleted all of my and other lsd members messages regarding the incident, and left theirs! So as you can see, we have a long list of grievances, that go much farther than these incidents. I like Ron, and Larry (when he was in), but Dave is a jerk, and Eddie is a moron. I do not know the Sheik, but I know that he is an asshole too. These are my opinions, but I tend to think that I speak for my group too. Parity Error/Lsd 1/21: Numb: [28/30] Subj: Eddie. Name: The Hitman [Greg] Club: First Class Date: 7/11/86 at 09:57:37 Pm Eddie--The Triton is a major loser in my book. When he was a member of FC(which was the biggest mistake in MY ifetime) he was really a MAJOR loser. I knew Eddie when he first started out nd when he used to change his name about 4 times a week...well, after these years..he hasn't change his name n a while but he still the BIGGEST pirate loser i've ever known...if you ask me, I think he is the ULTIMATE New Kid ever...anyway, gotta go..what a shitty connection...I support the BOYCOT. Greg/FC 1/21: Numb: [29/30] Subj: What about them? Name: Touch Tone [Bart] Club: First Class Date: 7/12/86 at 12:53:12 Am FUCK THEM! Thats all I have to say.. Besides the fact that Dave called my board and asked me to ask Rob to stop baggin on Chris and that he (Dave) doesnt like the things that Rob are spreading about him.. I know of none such rumors.. Then he goes as far as to tell me to back out of it.. Or else.. Hahha.. Guess who will be getting a visit in the near future (He lives 20 mins away from me) bets will be taken 0ds are 1,000,000 to 1 that he wins.. hahaha I definatly support the boycot.. And it shall be carried over with the boycot supported on my board.. Hmm, Oh yeah.. Eddie is a fucking looser and a gnu wares kid anyway.. Chris, I spoke to him about 11PM last night asking him if he was working on anything.. He said no.. I hang up and about 10 mins later Crazy Cat calls me nd u/ls some lame ware that Chris "Er, B-Filed" called Lunar Explorer.. So chris.. He is a fucking looser... All I can say is that someone asked me what do you think of DG.. I said in a quick statement.. FUCK DG Touch Tone/ /First Class 1/20: Numb: [30/30] Subj: By the way Name: Touch Tone [Bart] Club: First Class Date: 7/12/86 at 01:05:33 Am I think everyone should support this boycott.. Why? Just remeber the magic words... FUCK DG And as soon as Dave or anyone in DG reads this. Dave, any rag on your wares bout ANYONE in First Class or ANYONE supporting this boycott would mean I would have to kick your ass.. And yes, this time Dave, I did say shit about you you looser.. And come to think of it.. Its not even Dave I am mad at.. Its that fucking looser Chris.. YOU ASSHOLE CHRIS --------------------------------------- Hope you enjoyed the following msgs and look forward to a part [2] and a part [3] and so on This file was compiled with the ever loving compliments of the group members of The Bunnymen, First Class and LSD This file was mostly put together by Lord Sauron of The Bunnymen and by Touch Tone of First Class.